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That sounds right from what I recall!

I was just having this discussion with some friends over the weekend, and one of them asked, "Are there even any white collar animals from GT?"

I think that when the New Caledonian species were discovered and then blew up, leachianus and ciliatus got most of the attention and fanfare. As a result, little attention was paid to chahoua until it was almost too late... thus this thread now :(

Ugh I forget the name for these things... they always reminded me of ugly blackheads 😂 I bet @Andrea IGA knows!

Great topic - sorry it took me a second to reply :) I think I've had pretty good luck over the years, only getting one chahoua that died within a few weeks of arriving here. As a rule, I don't QT in a separate room but I did move two geckos into another room this year when it seemed like I had...

If I recall correctly, I'd say most of my GTs were around 25-30g at one year old, and ultimately topped out at 45-50g as adults, attaining that weight around 2.5 years. So their growth between 1 and 2.5 years was quite slow. I've also made more progress with diets and feeding since I bred GTs...

I will have to try that!

Would love some info for GTs as well!!

I agree with you. I started my journey with chahoua by keeping mainlands, and had many that were very beautiful. Towards the end, most of what I kept was Troeger line animals, and many of those are spectacular. However, it's gotten a lot harder to track down those lines over the years :(

An interesting point about M. jalu: the lost and non-regenerated tail. Wasn't it said at some point that the animals from île des Pins did not regenerate their tails? So, could those animals be closer related to jalu than chahoua? I know I cannot base that statement off just one picture...

Thanks for sharing all of this information - very helpful. Let us know how it goes working with the NC authorities. That could be very cool!

I can't find them online, but I did download the pics a few years ago when they were published. All credit goes to Exo Terra of course:

I remember that now! Thank you :) Here is the full story and some pics, though I know there are other photos: http://www.exo-terra.com/en/expeditions/expedition2013.php

I see what you mean, but I do not think this type of discussion is going to hurt the species in any way. I would argue that the present system of "PI animals are great and GT animals are ugly" has done much more harm than good for the species. As we can see in pictures from expeditions to those...

Something else that I have been trying to figure out: Do we know for sure if there are M. chahoua or M. jalu on île des Pins? Or both? Or something different? From what I can tell, we know animals were collected from there years ago - and at other points (legitimacy in question) - but has...

At the risk of completely oversimplifying this discussion, which I know I am doing: Does PI vs. GT or chahoua vs. jalu really matter when referencing our captive animals? How do you confirm or consider such locality or species information? I've done the research and have read almost everything...

Love this topic! There are some nice ones here: https://moderndinosaurgeckos.com/forums/threads/pastel-lines.33/

Bump! This came up recently ;)

Dang, Mel. You went all out!! They're beautiful.

I know this subject has been discussed at different points, but what are your thoughts on chahoua with white collars vs. chahoua with green collars? Is one more desirable than the other? Why is there a variance? There's a lot to consider here, IMO. From what I have seen, babies who hatch with...